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Measuring Oral Roberts’ – Influence John MacArthur

Posted in Apostacy, Bible, Emergent Church, Evangelism, Joel Osteen, Mission & Martyrs, New Age Garbage, Oral Roberts, prosperity gospel, Prosperity Pimps, Purpose Driven Lie, Seeker Sensitive, The Gospel on December 18, 2009 by Billy Creighton

Measuring Oral Roberts’ Influence
Friday, December 18, 2009

John MacArthur

Oral Roberts died this week and the obituaries have been abuzz with analyses of his life and legacy. The USA Today headline summed up his contributions this way: “Oral Roberts brought health-and-wealth Gospel mainstream.” The Los Angeles Times gave a similar snapshot of the man: “Oral Roberts dies at 91; televangelist was pioneering preacher of the ‘prosperity gospel'”

But Christianity Today‘s lead blogger, Ted Olsen, disagreed. He responded with a post titled “Why the Oral Roberts Obituaries Are Wrong.” The long subtitle at the head of Olsen’s post explained: “The ‘faith-healer’ (who hated the term) may have done much to mainstream Pentecostalism, but he was no architect of the Prosperity Gospel.”

Olsen’s argument, essentially, is that the real founder and mastermind of prosperity doctrine was not Oral Roberts but Kenneth Hagin, “who is far more widely recognized as the man who joined Pentecostalism with the Faith Movement (also called ‘Word-Faith,’ or derogatively, the Prosperity Gospel or ‘Health and Wealth’ gospel).”

E.W. KenyonOlsen, however, is wrong. He has evidently confused two categories. It is quite true that Kenneth Hagin is the main prosperity preacher who popularized word-faith doctrine–the notion that the words we speak determine the blessings we receive. Hagin borrowed that doctrine from an earlier, lesser-known preacher–E. W. Kenyon. (A mountain of evidence suggests that Hagin actually plagiarized large portions of his published works from Kenyon’s writings.) Kenyon had been strongly influenced by the teachings of New Thought, a 19th-century metaphysical cult similar to Christian Science. So Hagin’s word-faith doctrines had deeply cultic roots, but the idea fit perfectly with the prosperity doctrines that were already being taught by A. A. Allen, Oral Roberts, Jack Coe, and other faith-healers. The two ideas were natural complements to one another.

Still, word-faith doctrine and the prosperity gospel are not synonymous. (Even the current Wikipedia entry acknowledges this: “Although [the Word of Faith movement] shares teachings in common with Prosperity theology, they are not the same thing.”) Prosperity doctrine is the notion that God’s favor is expressed mainly through physical health and material prosperity, and that these blessings are available for the claiming by anyone who has sufficient faith.

Oral Roberts was certainly the 20th century’s leading advocate of that idea. His prosperity doctrine laid the foundation for an enormous media-based religious system, and Oral Roberts was indeed its chief architect. It is preposterous that Christianity Today would try to whitewash that fact. Prosperity teaching was what Roberts himself wanted to be remembered for.

In Oral Roberts: An American Life, biographer David Edwin Harrell, Jr., describes how Roberts discovered the prosperity gospel and how it became the centerpiece of his message. One day he opened his Bible randomly and spotted 3 John 2: “Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.” He showed it to his wife, Evelyn, and “They talked excitedly about the verse’s implications. Did it mean they could have a ‘new car,’ ‘a new house,’ a ‘brand-new ministry?’ In later years, Evelyn looked back on that morning as the point of embarkation: ‘I really believe that that very morning was the beginning of this worldwide ministry that he has had, because it opened up his thinking” [(Bloomington, IN: Indiana University, 1985), p. 66]. Roberts testified that a shiny new Buick, acquired by unexpected means shortly after that experience, “became a symbol to me of what a man could do if he would believe God.”

After he embraced prosperity doctrine, Oral Roberts’ best-known and most far-reaching brainchild was the Seed-Faith message. Roberts taught that money and material things donated to his organization were the seeds of prosperity and material blessings from God, and that God promises to multiply in miraculous ways whatever is given–and give many times more back to the donor. It was a simple, quasi-spiritual get-rich-quick scheme that appealed mainly to poor, disadvantaged, and desperate people. It generated untold millions for Roberts’ empire and was quickly adopted by a host of similarly-oriented Pentecostal and Charismatic media ministries. The Seed-Faith principle is the main cash-cow that built and has supported vast networks of televangelists who barter for their viewers’ money with fervent promises of “miracles”–and the miracles are invariably described in terms of material blessings, mainly money. Elsewhere I have compared this doctrine to the mentality of the post-WWII cargo cults.

Tragically, the Seed-Faith message usurped and utterly replaced whatever gospel content there ever may have been in Oral Roberts’ preaching. In all the many times I saw him on television I never once heard him preach the gospel. His message–every time–was about Seed-Faith. The reason for that is obvious: the message of the cross–an atoning sacrifice for sins wrought through Jesus’ sufferings–frankly doesn’t mesh very well with the notion that God guarantees health, wealth, and prosperity to the righteous. Our fellowship in Jesus’ sufferings (Philippians 3:10), and our duty to follow in His steps (1 Peter 2:20-23), are likewise antithetical to the core principles of prosperity doctrine. The prosperity message is a different gospel (cf. Galatians 1:8-9).

One leading charismatic figure this week stated that without Oral Roberts’ influence, “the entire charismatic movement might not have occurred.” That may well be true. For that very reason, Roberts’ legacy needs to be evaluated soberly, honestly, and carefully, under the stark light of Scripture. Was the message he proclaimed the unadulterated gospel? Though he eschewed the label, Roberts made his main reputation on television in the 1950s as a faith-healer, and he even claimed to have raised multiple people from the dead.Did his best-known and most staggering “prophecies” prove to be true? Was he himself a credible man?

Kenneth HaginThe answer to all those questions is an unambiguous no. Oral Roberts’ influence is not something Bible-believing Christians should celebrate. Virtually every abberant idea the Pentecostal and charismatic movements spawned after 1950 can be traced in one way or another to Oral Roberts’ influence. (What the CT blog fails to mention is that Kenneth Hagin and Oral Roberts often ministered together and affirmed one another’s ministries. Furthermore, the heir to Hagin’s standing as chief of the word-faith preachers is Kenneth Copeland, who went into television ministry after working as chauffeur and pilot to Oral Roberts. So even though it would not be quite accurate to portray Oral Roberts as an aggressive proponent of word-faith doctrines, he acted as more of an ally than an opponent to the movement. We might say his relationship with that movement was reminiscent of a benign grandfather who refused to correct an out-of-control grandchild.)
Kenneth Copeland
One thing all the obituaries agree on is that Oral Roberts paved the way for all the charismatic televangelists and faith-healers who dominate religious television today. He did more than anyone in the early Pentecostal movement to influence mainstream evangelicalism. He parlayed his television ministry into a vast empire that has left a deep mark on the church worldwide. In many places today, including some of the world’s most illiterate and poverty-stricken regions, Oral Roberts’ Seed-Faith concept is actually better known than the doctrine of justification by faith. The message of prosperity is now the message multitudes think of when they hear the word “gospel.” Countless confused people worldwide think of the gospel as a message about earthly, temporal, and material riches rather than the infinitely greater blessings of forgiveness from sin and the eternal blessing of the believer’s spiritual union with Christ.

ORU Praying-HandsAll of those are reasons to lament rather than celebrate Oral Roberts’ fame and influence. My prayer is that future generations will see the folly of those doctrines, renounce and turn away from them, and cling tightly to the sure word of God and the glorious, eternal promises of the true gospel. Were those “miracles” real and verifiable?

Purpose Driven Life – John MacArthur

Posted in Apostacy, Bible, Emergent Church, Forgiveness, John Macarthur, Mission & Martyrs, New Age Garbage, Quotes, Rick Warren, Seeker Sensitive, The Cross, The Gospel on December 16, 2009 by Billy Creighton

How Not To Be A Pastor…

Posted in Apostacy, Emergent Church, New Age Garbage, Purpose Driven Lie, Seeker Sensitive, sin, The Gospel on December 16, 2009 by Billy Creighton

Beware Of Dogs!

Posted in Apostacy, Emergent Church, gospel, Jesus Christ, Mission & Martyrs, New Age Garbage, prosperity gospel, Prosperity Pimps, Seeker Sensitive, Sermons, sin on December 12, 2009 by Billy Creighton

Who am I?…Why am I here?…What is wrong with the world?…How can what is wrong, be made right?

Posted in Abortion, Apostacy, Evangelism, Forgiveness, Homosexuality, Jesus Christ, Sermons, sin, The Cross, The Gospel, Voddie Baucham on December 1, 2009 by Billy Creighton

Voddie Baucham gives us the  the answers to the questions:

Who am I?…Why am I here?…What is wrong with the world?…How can what is wrong, be made right?


Twisting The Word Of God.

Posted in Apostacy, Emergent Church, New Age Garbage, Purpose Driven Lie, Seeker Sensitive on November 12, 2009 by Billy Creighton

In Matthew 12:9–14 Jesus was in a synagogue on the Sabbath; and there was a man with a paralyzed hand. Some people wanted to accuse Him of doing wrong and asked Him whether it is against their Law to heal (work) on the Sabbath.

Jesus asked them if any of them had a sheep which fell into a deep hole on the Sabbath whether they would rescue it. Then to prove His point, He healed the man with the paralyzed hand.

So what is Jesus saying here? Is He encouraging people to break one of the Ten Commandments?  Of course not.

Jesus is saying: Beware of those who would use God’s Word for their own ends. They would either take it literally or miss-quote it to suit their own argument and to their benefit, as in the classic example of the false teachers in the video below by the “New Covenant Group” that claims there is no hell.

Notice particularly how NONE of the passages where Jesus teaches the doctrines of God’s wrath and eternal punishment are discussed. Instead, there is only an appeal to a synthetically constructed Jesus that was built using only incomplete information and distorted human reasoning.

“Then [Jesus] will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (Matthew 25:41–46)

“Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God”. 2 Corinthians 4:2

Phyllis Tickle Speaks Her Scriptureless Mind

Posted in Apostacy, Emergent Church, Homosexuality, Purpose Driven Lie, Seeker Sensitive on October 28, 2009 by Billy Creighton

Blasphemous Words From Phyllis Tickle

Posted in Apostacy, Emergent Church, Rob Bell on May 30, 2009 by Billy Creighton

“And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.” (1 Corinthians 11:24-26)

Phyllis Tickle speaking at a communion service at Rob Bell’s church, the Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI. Her heretcial and blasphemous words needs no clarification.

“As we’re about to do that, let us remember what we are doing. We not only celebrate that death and that promise of return, but we’re feeding by eating God, which is what we’re doing here, by eating the body and blood of our God, we are feeding the God within us. For as we take those elements, the Spirit also feeds within us, and is reinvigorated as he, or she, or it is by our faith.”

Is Rob Bell a Christian? (Fighting for the Faith)

Posted in Apostacy, Emergent Church, Rob Bell on November 14, 2008 by Billy Creighton

Rob bell has one of the fastest growing ‘churches’ in america.. but is he teaching the truth? Have a listen.

This Guy Isn’t Kidding…

Posted in Apostacy, New Age Garbage on September 4, 2008 by Billy Creighton

He writes- ‘My daddy God loves it when I play with him as a child… I can feel the Holy Sprit’s pleasure when I do child-like frolicing.. I love to Huff in the Holy Ghost and Jesus is the one that serves the smokey Glory..
I love Jesus and I love you

This is very disturbing, and looks very demonic, this type of behavior seems to be coming primarily from two guys called John Crowder and Benjamin Dunn, they have several videos on You Tube like the one below,

Interviews with ‘Cancer Fake’ Michael Guglielmucci

Posted in Apostacy, Informative on September 1, 2008 by Billy Creighton

Michael Guglielmucci Interview On Today Tonight

Michael Guglielmucci on Australian Channel Nine News

Hillsong Songwriter Fakes Cancer

Posted in Apostacy, Informative on August 25, 2008 by Billy Creighton

PASTOR Michael Guglielmucci has been told by church officials to report to police, who will investigate what has happened to money raised during his cancer deception.

The Australian Christian Churches told The Advertiser yesterday that it was auditing Mr Guglielmucci’s bank accounts, which included money donated from people touched by his hit song Healer.

Mr Guglielmucci confessed his two-year fraudulent cancer battle at a national executive meeting of the ACC on Saturday, and was stripped of his credentials.

Edge Church International’s executive pastor Jonathan Fontanarosa said Mr Guglielmucci had “made it clear that he is not sick”.

“But we’re waiting on further investigation to find out the full truth,” he said. “The church is in shock . . . we were totally unaware of the situation.”

It was decided at Saturday’s meeting that a statement would be read on Mr Guglielmucci’s behalf at churches around Australia this Sunday.

But an email sent on Wednesday from Sydney’s Hillsong Church detailing the hoax was obtained by The Advertiser.

It also said Mr Guglielmucci’s wife and family were unaware of the deception. The Melbourne-based preacher is in Adelaide, but has gone to ground.

His parents, who founded Edge Church International, an Assemblies of God church at Reynella, are assisting him while he seeks professional help.

The ACC has promised that all money raised deceptively will be returned or donated to charity.

The Assemblies of God, Australia’s largest Pentecostal movement, adopted its new name of Australian Christian Churches in 2007.

The former pastor with one of Australia’s biggest youth churches, Planetshakers, inspired hundreds of thousands of young Christians around the world as he performed with an oxygen tube in his nose.

Healer became an anthem of faith for believers, many of whom are suffering illnesses and were praying for Mr Guglielmucci.

The song, featured on Hillsong’s latest album, debuted at No. 2 on the ARIA charts.

In a YouTube video, he tells how the news from the hospital that he had “quite an aggressive form of cancer” inspired his song. “I just went home. I knew I had to go home and needed to get alone with God,” he says in the video.

“I walked into my studio at home and for some reason. . . I sat at a piano and began to worship.

“I sang that song from start to finish. I was crying. I just realised that God had given me an incredible gift and I realise that song was going to be my strength.”

Church community sources said Mr Guglielmucci attended his medical appointments alone.

A scheduled appearance by him at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne this weekend has been cancelled.

While many in the church were embarrassed by the betrayal, others showed support on Facebook, where a page titled “We are STILL praying for you Mike Guglielmucci” was set up yesterday.

Lakeland Disturbing Prayer (Must See)

Posted in Apostacy, Todd Bentley on August 23, 2008 by Billy Creighton

Roy Fields (Lakeland ‘Worship Leader’) shares his violent heart in this very disturbing prayer.

Todd Bentley – Last Meeting – They Already Knew

Posted in Apostacy, Todd Bentley on August 19, 2008 by Billy Creighton

Todd Bentley was allowed to “minister” even after the truth was known.

Its Our Fault….

Posted in Apostacy, Todd Bentley on August 18, 2008 by Billy Creighton

According to Patricia King, it’s our fault Todd Bentley committed adultery with of our ‘negative words’.

For if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God? (1 Tim 3:5)